Thursday, January 12, 2006
CIVIL WAR WITHIN AN INSURGENCY?
From Memeorandum:
The New York Times has an article discussing the increasing clashes between Sunni nationalist insurgent groups and the well-funded Islamist terrorist group, al Qaida in Mesopotamia, run by Musab al-Zarqawi.
While we should not overestimate this, the story is highly plausible given the extremist ideas of Zarqawi which are far more takfiri-Kharijite oriented than even the ideology of the main branch of al Qaida run by bin Laden and al-Zawahiri. The predominance of Saudis and Saudi money in al Qaida Iraq squares with the earlier analysis by the Jamestown Foundation and a more recent one.
A point which indicates that the Saudi security services are either tasked beyond their means by the magnitude of pro-Jihadi sentiment in the population that their own Wahhabi-Salafist ideology has stoked or very little effort is going to stem the flow of volunteers and cash northward (most likely because, as with the previous exodus to Afghanistan, Saudi authorities are happy to see the troublemakers go. Some won't be coming back). ¶ 8:35 AM
From Memeorandum:
The New York Times has an article discussing the increasing clashes between Sunni nationalist insurgent groups and the well-funded Islamist terrorist group, al Qaida in Mesopotamia, run by Musab al-Zarqawi.
While we should not overestimate this, the story is highly plausible given the extremist ideas of Zarqawi which are far more takfiri-Kharijite oriented than even the ideology of the main branch of al Qaida run by bin Laden and al-Zawahiri. The predominance of Saudis and Saudi money in al Qaida Iraq squares with the earlier analysis by the Jamestown Foundation and a more recent one.
A point which indicates that the Saudi security services are either tasked beyond their means by the magnitude of pro-Jihadi sentiment in the population that their own Wahhabi-Salafist ideology has stoked or very little effort is going to stem the flow of volunteers and cash northward (most likely because, as with the previous exodus to Afghanistan, Saudi authorities are happy to see the troublemakers go. Some won't be coming back). ¶ 8:35 AM
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Kharijite?
No, not really. In any case the modern Kharijites are far from the takfiri sorts.
mahjari might be a better adjective.
No, not really. In any case the modern Kharijites are far from the takfiri sorts.
mahjari might be a better adjective.
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This had a companion piece on the front page of the Times, which criticized the Shia-Kurdish government for not changing the constitution in Sunni Arab-friendly ways.
It's a good-news, bad-news combo by the Times editorial board to push an appeasement agenda. It's not necessarily a bad strategy -- though it is -- but the way they place stories is impressive.
Dan tdaxp
It's a good-news, bad-news combo by the Times editorial board to push an appeasement agenda. It's not necessarily a bad strategy -- though it is -- but the way they place stories is impressive.
Dan tdaxp
Kharijite, while the ancient ones can be spun to sound a lot like the modern Hijra wa Takfir groups, are not really of the same cloth.
The wiki article strikes me as being ... not unbalanced but sensationalist. I would not call the Takfiris "kharijites" as modern Kharijites are not in any way takfiri as a general matter, and insofar as it fits, it fits a slightly analogous situation over a thousand years past.
In short, it's not a good tag to use as it confuses and is a bit of an anachronism.
The wiki article strikes me as being ... not unbalanced but sensationalist. I would not call the Takfiris "kharijites" as modern Kharijites are not in any way takfiri as a general matter, and insofar as it fits, it fits a slightly analogous situation over a thousand years past.
In short, it's not a good tag to use as it confuses and is a bit of an anachronism.
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: Thursday, 12 January, 2006
On the observation regarding flow north from KSA - that's a long border and wasteland. The Saudis legit face a serious challenge policing. Think about your Mexican problem.
Doubtless sympathy among Saudi border guards helps as well.
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Doubtless sympathy among Saudi border guards helps as well.
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